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on the debt ceiling? >> brianna, you know the answer to this question. no, we're not going to negotiate for congress to pay bills that it has accrued. i think congressman ryan and senator murray did a good job in trying to narrow the differences and actually pass a budget that i can sign. now, i can't imagine that having seen this possible daylight breaking when it comes to cooperation in congress, that folks are thinking actually about plunging us back into the kinds of brinksmanship and governance by crisis that has done us so much harm over the last couple of years. >> so he's clearly not blinking on that front. >> reporter: no, he's not blinking and you heard there was some praise for paul ryan there, but he also slammed him for saying recently the republicans were going to figure out what they want to extract in the fight over the debt ceiling. that is expected to happen. the u.s. is expected to hit the debt ceiling and lose its ability to borrow money should congress not act. that would be late febr
on the debt ceiling? >> brianna, you know the answer to this question. no, we're not going to negotiate for congress to pay bills that it has accrued. i think congressman ryan and senator murray did a good job in trying to narrow the differences and actually pass a budget that i can sign. now, i can't imagine that having seen this possible daylight breaking when it comes to cooperation in congress, that folks are thinking actually about plunging us back into the kinds of brinksmanship and...
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the republicans may feel they have the public with them more on the debt ceiling issue, but if you see the full faith and credit of the united states being put on the line, as you did by the way a couple years ago, when we went through this, the polls actually flipped because people were nervous. we got downgraded, right? and they don't want to go through that again. it's embarrassing. they think it's not working in washington and generally when voters think things aren't working in washington, they kind of blame everybody and the president's the leader. >> but if the republicans -- last time we had a government shutdown in '95-'96, republicans blamed the republicans. >> they don't want to have a government shutdown. they haven't from the beginning. john boehner, who is kind of the pivot guy in this, he's key -- >> poor thing. >> poor thing is right. he needs another job, i'm sure. but he had to find a way to say i took this to the barricades for you guys. i did as much as i could, i pushed and pushed, they are continuing to push it even when they get back a clean bill from the senate,
the republicans may feel they have the public with them more on the debt ceiling issue, but if you see the full faith and credit of the united states being put on the line, as you did by the way a couple years ago, when we went through this, the polls actually flipped because people were nervous. we got downgraded, right? and they don't want to go through that again. it's embarrassing. they think it's not working in washington and generally when voters think things aren't working in washington,...
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bill to the debt ceiling. they want to talk about reducing spending. >> gloria makes a good point. i don't think there was one question about the glitches in the rollout of obama care during a 65-minute appearance that the president had in the briefing room. >> a lot of republican strategist looking at 2014 races bang their head against the wall at that. they think if republicans had not brought us to the government shutdown and this debate t political narrative in this country would be about glitches in obama care and they would be benefiting. instead the republicans are getting more of the blame for the shutdown and more of the blame for the potential government default. i would disagree to a tiny degree on the idea of the president saying you can put the conditions in writing, put the subject and negotiation in writing as a potential olive branch. the problem is, it would have been an olive branch two years ago or four years ago, when maybe they trusted each other. but because of the collapse of the grand b
bill to the debt ceiling. they want to talk about reducing spending. >> gloria makes a good point. i don't think there was one question about the glitches in the rollout of obama care during a 65-minute appearance that the president had in the briefing room. >> a lot of republican strategist looking at 2014 races bang their head against the wall at that. they think if republicans had not brought us to the government shutdown and this debate t political narrative in this country...
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a clean debt ceiling. democrats are not so sure. they haven't seen the language of it. but a debt ceiling that doesn't have the spending cuts and other strings attached that? conservatives have been demanding. in exchange for that what they wanted him to agree to was to sit down and talk about the big issues they have to the come together on frankly for two, three years. big, big issues that everybody believes need to be addressed, but they have very different philosophies on how to do so with regard to entitlements, with regard to taxes, with regard to the overall level of government spending. those are the things they wanted to discuss with the president. you know, again, as you and i have talked about so many times over the past ten days or more, we still have a potential chicken or egg situation, which is the best way to describe this. jim just played a quick sound bite from the senate majority leader harry reid, who said it's not going to happened, when asked if they would agree to extend the debt cei
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the republicans are not going to raise it unless we come up with spending cuts equal to the debt ceiling. what happens? >> the republicans may cause the country to default. they have the power and do control half of the congress and they have enough votes to block anything. i think it's disgraceful and the president is doing all he can to run the only super power on god's earth. somewhat optimistic. they seem to want to destroy the economy. . >> the will of the people, the american people believe that this government is too big and it spends too much and taxes too much. it's $16 trillion in debt. if the president ignores that problem, he does so on his own. he can't be intimidator in chief, but commander in chief. this is the moment. the debt that your party -- >> he added $6 trillion. >> they handed it off to republicans and the republicans created the debt. by waging two wars on the credit card and passing the drug claim for seniors and deregulating wall street. those were the pieces. all of the republican policies. the president has been trying and succeeding in ameliorating those pol
the republicans are not going to raise it unless we come up with spending cuts equal to the debt ceiling. what happens? >> the republicans may cause the country to default. they have the power and do control half of the congress and they have enough votes to block anything. i think it's disgraceful and the president is doing all he can to run the only super power on god's earth. somewhat optimistic. they seem to want to destroy the economy. . >> the will of the people, the american...
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if the debt ceiling is not raised and we asked democrats, republicans, independents, democrats, you know, thought it would be at 77% of democrats thought it would be bad, 49% of independents, 40% of republicans. and sort of mirror image as far as good is concerned. there's a clear political split. >> that is red and blue america. it's also a fact that the president has a sales problem. i'm not blaming the president but as mark says we've never gone there so maybe the leersd don't talk about it enough, explain the economics of it. this is not about running deficits but the government borrowing to pay its bills for things it's already done. one, the majority of republicans think it would be a good thing. that's why these republicans in the house are unafraid at the moment. they're going home to district where is their voters are say gog for it. if you look at the middle of the electorate, the independents, most republicans have been very pleased politically that the president over the course of his second term has been losing support among independents. you see that divide right there. the
if the debt ceiling is not raised and we asked democrats, republicans, independents, democrats, you know, thought it would be at 77% of democrats thought it would be bad, 49% of independents, 40% of republicans. and sort of mirror image as far as good is concerned. there's a clear political split. >> that is red and blue america. it's also a fact that the president has a sales problem. i'm not blaming the president but as mark says we've never gone there so maybe the leersd don't talk...
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and raise the nation's debt ceiling. >> i am eager and ready to sit down and negotiate with republicans on a whole range of issues. >> reporter: another hope 68 sign? with a potential default on october 17th fast amuch pros, white house officials said the president is willing to september a short-term increase in the debt limits, instead of racing it for one year as most democrats prefer. >> i'm simply saying we have never stated and are not saying today that a debt ceiling ought to be or can be any particular length of time. i'm not ruling out the specific duration, and i want to make that clear. >> reporter: republicans complain it's the president who's risking default, pointing to this comment made by white house economic adviser gene sperling. >> the president strongly believes that if he were to sanction negotiations with those threatening default, that would actually increase -- not decrease the chances that we as a country undermine or full faith and credit. >> reporter: sperling went on to say that the president believes such negotiations would only encourage more brings manship
and raise the nation's debt ceiling. >> i am eager and ready to sit down and negotiate with republicans on a whole range of issues. >> reporter: another hope 68 sign? with a potential default on october 17th fast amuch pros, white house officials said the president is willing to september a short-term increase in the debt limits, instead of racing it for one year as most democrats prefer. >> i'm simply saying we have never stated and are not saying today that a debt ceiling...
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unclear if that is part of the discussion, maybe a longer term extension of the debt ceiling which i know everyone around here would probably breathe a sigh of relief on because we would just be back in this crisis mode in six weeks. >> with the latest horrible poll numbers for republicans, is it fair to say, is it safe to assume that obama care at least for now is off the table in order to raise the debt ceiling and reopen the government? >> reporter:s far as republicans go, no. it is not safe to assume that at all. having said that, talking to a couple of republican senators who were in a meeting with the president just today, he made clear again in private what he has said in public, which is fine, i know there are issues with obama care. nothing is perfect, especially something as big and important as a health care law like this, but we're not going to talk about changing it until after the debt ceiling is raised, until after the government is reopened. but it doesn't sound like republicans are entirely giving up, at least not in big ways to change it like defunding it or delayin
unclear if that is part of the discussion, maybe a longer term extension of the debt ceiling which i know everyone around here would probably breathe a sigh of relief on because we would just be back in this crisis mode in six weeks. >> with the latest horrible poll numbers for republicans, is it fair to say, is it safe to assume that obama care at least for now is off the table in order to raise the debt ceiling and reopen the government? >> reporter:s far as republicans go, no. it...
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the debt ceiling has not been lichted. the only thing is that president obama is finally back at the table after promising he would not negotiate and reportedly considering bills that might fundamentally change obama care. so let's see where this goes. in the crossfire tine. brian schweitzer, and -- now, for the sake of ease, gentlemen, you will be congressman, and you will be governor. i hope that's okay.
the debt ceiling has not been lichted. the only thing is that president obama is finally back at the table after promising he would not negotiate and reportedly considering bills that might fundamentally change obama care. so let's see where this goes. in the crossfire tine. brian schweitzer, and -- now, for the sake of ease, gentlemen, you will be congressman, and you will be governor. i hope that's okay.
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as you know, joe, republicans are saying they're not going to increase the debt ceiling unless they get spending cuts in return. so, it really throws into question, as president obama obviously is trying to disarm them, trying to make moot, really, this one pretty hefty card they're able to play here throughout this battle. it throws into question how tackle things like entitlement reform and tax reform and also those spending cuts that were only put off for a couple months. spending cuts that are set to kick in at the end of the month. how all of of that plays out. >> brianna, for the first time, the president actually responded to questions about the administration not having enough women in the second term cabinet. what did he say? >> reporter: he stressed his record on this during his first term, that hillary clinton was the secretary of state, still is, but is going to be stepping down and will be replaced by a man. he stressed that janet napolitano is heading the department of homeland security and at least for now appears to be staying there. he stressed as well that he appointed
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we're going to face july and august, the debt ceiling, republicans in the past have threatened to allow the united states to default on the debt ceiling. the president says that's nonnegotiable. what he has said is that he wants to find a way forward and a smart way to deficit reduction which requires balance. the president says he's prepared to make additional cuts on top of the 1.5 trillion we have already made. he wants to make a balanced approach. if that means closing tax breaks that disproportionately benefit very wealthy people. after all, the last presidential campaign both mitt romney and paul ryan talked about. they are still out there. let's talk about them. >> the republicans say they are ready to close those loopholes. they eliminate the subsidies for big oil companies or whatever. they want to make sure that at the same time you reduce tax rates. is that at all doable, from your perspective? >> their position in the past is that penny for penny, any time you eliminate a tax break, it has to go entirely into -- >> no new taxes. >> that's right. >> which they abandoned at th
we're going to face july and august, the debt ceiling, republicans in the past have threatened to allow the united states to default on the debt ceiling. the president says that's nonnegotiable. what he has said is that he wants to find a way forward and a smart way to deficit reduction which requires balance. the president says he's prepared to make additional cuts on top of the 1.5 trillion we have already made. he wants to make a balanced approach. if that means closing tax breaks that...
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the debt ceiling. we'll talk about all of it with the former defense secretary, leon panetta. >>> and congresswoman michele bachmann is here with us as well. i'll ask her if she said a shutdown is exactly what republicans want. >>> plus, new details on the woman killed by police in the car chase that ended outside the capitol, including medication found in her home that may provide important clues. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> there's a breaking news happening, very disturbing information coming in, reports we're getting of a man who may have set himself on fire here in washington on the national mall. let's go straight to brian todd. he's got the latest. what happened, brian? >> reporter: well, we were just down here on the national mall and we were diverted to an area near the air and space museum. people who are not familiar with washington, may not know exactly where that is but it's in the middle of the mall. people have told us they had reports of a man on fire. it is unc
the debt ceiling. we'll talk about all of it with the former defense secretary, leon panetta. >>> and congresswoman michele bachmann is here with us as well. i'll ask her if she said a shutdown is exactly what republicans want. >>> plus, new details on the woman killed by police in the car chase that ended outside the capitol, including medication found in her home that may provide important clues. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>>...
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well as on raising the debt ceiling? >> the president has been very clear on that. here is where we are on the debt ceiling. for the first time ever in 2011 the republicans decided they were going to threaten if they don't get 100% their way they will get into default for the first time causing tremendous consequences. we can't allow that to be the norm here where one party doesn't get what they want and they don't win elections and can't pass thing and hold the full faith and credit of the united states hostage. they have to do their job which is paid the bills they already incurred it is paying for spending this congress authorized. >> hold the thought for a moment. i want to continue this conversation. take a quick break. more with dan pfeiffer including this, should the president put obama care on the back burner at least for a year to make peace with congressional republicans? we'll ask dan pfeiffer about that, and two former defense secretaries who both worked for president obama get this, they are now voicing some
well as on raising the debt ceiling? >> the president has been very clear on that. here is where we are on the debt ceiling. for the first time ever in 2011 the republicans decided they were going to threaten if they don't get 100% their way they will get into default for the first time causing tremendous consequences. we can't allow that to be the norm here where one party doesn't get what they want and they don't win elections and can't pass thing and hold the full faith and credit of...
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. >> the president says he's not even going to negotiate on raising the debt ceiling. the republicans say he better. they are setting up a huge fight right now. >> they are. and look, this is what the republicans have going for them, reducing the size of government is rupture if, just like raising taxes on the wealthy was democratic turf. this is republican turf. it's popular. government is unpopular. people want to reduce spending. what the democrats have going for them and what the president believes he has going for him, the president says, okay, do you guys want to be responsible for shutting down the government? do you want to be responsible for us defaulting on our debt which people in this country believe is irresponsible? your public approval rating is, already, what, 12%, which i think is high for this congress? so the president believes he has the better part of that argument. the president is saying, the people are with us when it comes to government spending. >> you have a strong column on cnn.com. >> thank you. >> we have stacked the deck against ourselves
. >> the president says he's not even going to negotiate on raising the debt ceiling. the republicans say he better. they are setting up a huge fight right now. >> they are. and look, this is what the republicans have going for them, reducing the size of government is rupture if, just like raising taxes on the wealthy was democratic turf. this is republican turf. it's popular. government is unpopular. people want to reduce spending. what the democrats have going for them and what...
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. >> we're still optimistic that there is a path to lift the debt ceiling in time. we are disappointed that the house republicans decided to sabotage or at least delay what was happening there. but are hopeful that everybody knows time is of the essence and that if the republicans in the house want to put up a bill, they should do it soon. >> reporter: since it's unclear whether speaker boehner has the votes in his republican conference to pass this proposal, wolf, minority leader nancy pelosi made it clear she is not going to make it easy on him. she said he will have to rely 100% on republican votes. i asked her if there would be unanimous democratic support against this bill. she didn't go as far as saying unanimous but she did say there would be very, very strong democratic support against this republican proposal. >> brianna, what's the president's message to the speaker right now? >> you know, wolf, his message really is i think in a way, it's sort of you will not get concessions from me. he sat down, the president did, late this morning with a number of local
. >> we're still optimistic that there is a path to lift the debt ceiling in time. we are disappointed that the house republicans decided to sabotage or at least delay what was happening there. but are hopeful that everybody knows time is of the essence and that if the republicans in the house want to put up a bill, they should do it soon. >> reporter: since it's unclear whether speaker boehner has the votes in his republican conference to pass this proposal, wolf, minority leader...
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that's the trouble. >> and the looming debt ceiling is a huge issue as well. you're here in washington, broadcasting your show from washington, because the meetings of the imf. the rest of the world must be pretty nervous, jittery seeing what's going on here in the united states. >> absolutely conflicted. on the one hand they are saying this is no way to run a country, sort of saying those americans have got no idea what they are doing, but on the other hand they are serially worried about the -- >>> -- the rest of the world probably with it. two, you somehow manage to finagle robbing peter to pay paul. you start paying the debt. even if it's a technical default, or a moment tear default than in 1979, everybody start to worker what's next, what's going to happen? that uncertainly -- there is a few there shall let it happen, and did you who wants to take the risk? >> that's actually what the treasury secretary said. if you press him, he says, we don't want to find out. >> yesterday the imf downgraded world economic growth. >> they also threw in the possibilitie
that's the trouble. >> and the looming debt ceiling is a huge issue as well. you're here in washington, broadcasting your show from washington, because the meetings of the imf. the rest of the world must be pretty nervous, jittery seeing what's going on here in the united states. >> absolutely conflicted. on the one hand they are saying this is no way to run a country, sort of saying those americans have got no idea what they are doing, but on the other hand they are serially...
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up this debt ceiling fight. listen. >> asking barack obama not to be a big-spending, high-taxing liberal is a denial of everything that we've learned about him in his career. it's much better for the house republicans to say, this is what we're prepared to do. there are dozens of places you can dramatically change spending without having to get involved in a general crisis over the u.s. debt. >> does he have a point? do you think this is a message from the former speaker that's worth heeding? >> well, we definitely want to work with president obama, and we're at the beginning of the 113th congress. i would also say that this is our moment, though. the american people know that our economy is struggling right now, partly because of the debt that is impacting american families, hard-working taxpayers all across this country. when president obama was in the senate, when he was a u.s. senator, he voted against raising the debt ceiling. and he said it was a lack of leadership that had brought us to this point. and so
up this debt ceiling fight. listen. >> asking barack obama not to be a big-spending, high-taxing liberal is a denial of everything that we've learned about him in his career. it's much better for the house republicans to say, this is what we're prepared to do. there are dozens of places you can dramatically change spending without having to get involved in a general crisis over the u.s. debt. >> does he have a point? do you think this is a message from the former speaker that's...
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he's getting the debt ceiling. he's getting all of those basically his way or the highway so really there's not any compromise coming from the administration when the president says i will not compromise. i will not negotiate. it sounds to me not like our side is the problem. it sounds like their side is unwilling to negotiate. >> let's talk about the nsa surveillance programs. i don't know if you've had a chance to go through this report that was released today by -- these recommendations for curbing and reforming some of the nsa surveillance programs. if you have -- you want to give us your immediate reactions to these recommendations. >> you know, my reaction is that the judge the other day said that it was unconstitutional is exactly right. i think even the president's own team now is coming up with recommendations that acknowledge that the president has allowed this to get away from himself. he's allowed the nsa program to be intrusive, go against the bill of rights, go against the fourth amendment, and even h
he's getting the debt ceiling. he's getting all of those basically his way or the highway so really there's not any compromise coming from the administration when the president says i will not compromise. i will not negotiate. it sounds to me not like our side is the problem. it sounds like their side is unwilling to negotiate. >> let's talk about the nsa surveillance programs. i don't know if you've had a chance to go through this report that was released today by -- these...
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and i remember from covering those debt ceiling noish ags that republicans didn't like him very much, wolf. some of them said to me that jack lew kept moving the goal posts on them. yes, there will be opposition. for chuck hagel, no. i believe in the end jack lew will get confirmed. but i'll tell you this, the reason the white house put off the announcement of jack lew until tomorrow is because of the fiscal cliff. they didn't want it to get involved in the negotiations for the fiscal cliff. they felt that they already had a fight on their hands. they didn't want to add any fuel to the fire on that, which is why they've held off of the nomination until this week. they do expect him to get confirmed and so do i. >> john kerry, secretary of state. we've got a lot of white males, shall we say, chuck hagel, we have pictures up there. jack lew, eric holder is over at the justice department. he's not a white male. he's an african-american. but no women. >> men. men. >> i want to put up another picture of the seen yr staff, if you will. there you you he sue the staff. there's been mur murin
and i remember from covering those debt ceiling noish ags that republicans didn't like him very much, wolf. some of them said to me that jack lew kept moving the goal posts on them. yes, there will be opposition. for chuck hagel, no. i believe in the end jack lew will get confirmed. but i'll tell you this, the reason the white house put off the announcement of jack lew until tomorrow is because of the fiscal cliff. they didn't want it to get involved in the negotiations for the fiscal cliff....
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he also says this debt ceiling is not necessarily the crisis it's made out to be. congressman, thanks very much for joining us the. >> you bet, wolf. my pleasure. >> we anticipate it will get the republican leaders and other republicans on board. when it comes to the house, speaker boehner says it would be a yeah or nay vote. he hopes as many republicans as possible vote for it. how will you vote? i want i will be voting against the deal. washington, d.c. didn't listen to the american people and we didn't do a single thing about obama care, and it continues to hurt kansasens in particular. >> don't you think votes in kansas, indeed all over the country, would be much more severely hurt if the u.s. were to default on its obligations, or unable to make payments to veterans and others? >> fearmongering out of the white house doesn't make it true. at the end of the close of business there were significant of cash on hand from the treasury. lew said by the way, we didn't mean the 17th, we meant the 18th. there's not going to be a default. the reality is we are ignoring
he also says this debt ceiling is not necessarily the crisis it's made out to be. congressman, thanks very much for joining us the. >> you bet, wolf. my pleasure. >> we anticipate it will get the republican leaders and other republicans on board. when it comes to the house, speaker boehner says it would be a yeah or nay vote. he hopes as many republicans as possible vote for it. how will you vote? i want i will be voting against the deal. washington, d.c. didn't listen to the...
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but again, it would come up again presumably when it comes time to consider raising the debt ceiling and someone said to me, a senior house republican said to me this could go on until christmas. hate to say it. >> what a nightmare that would be. on, he's got the national security issues, whether syria, iran, kenya, so many other problems, all these domestic problems as well, including a possible government shut-down, a debt ceiling that's got to be raised by mid-october. we've covered a lot of presidents and it's juggling -- this is not going to be easy for him. >> it is not easy but it's never easy to be the president of the united states. this is a reminder that often in a president's second term, especially as they get toward that midterm election in the second term, foreign policy crises do tend to start to dominate. so the president has a very interesting week this week. i think goal number one for the white house is to avoid the quicksand. you don't want to make a bet on iran that turns out to be a bad bet. you want to try to move the ball on the russia/syria crisis but don't
but again, it would come up again presumably when it comes time to consider raising the debt ceiling and someone said to me, a senior house republican said to me this could go on until christmas. hate to say it. >> what a nightmare that would be. on, he's got the national security issues, whether syria, iran, kenya, so many other problems, all these domestic problems as well, including a possible government shut-down, a debt ceiling that's got to be raised by mid-october. we've covered a...
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and avoid debt ceiling drama has gained popular and political momentum. what sarted as a blog goss sfeer whim got more attention during the set ceiling standoff and now has new york sometimes columnist paul krug man writing if it's not avoiding, quote, mint the darn coin. not to mention a petition on the website with thousands of support. speaking at the white house. >> will you fully rule it out? >> you can speculate about a lot of things. the specifics of this question. >> the punt's in the air. it's a high floater. the treasury department decides not to field it, declining comment. but why is this being discussed more seriously now? analysts say frustration and fatigue in washington. >> there's an increased search for ways out of this problem, especially by democrats. and i think that's how some of them hit on this idea about the coin. >> we've explained how it would work. treasury can mint it and print on it $1 trillion. and the president can ask that it be deposited at the treasury reserve. >> the real buzz overall of this is about the possibilities.
and avoid debt ceiling drama has gained popular and political momentum. what sarted as a blog goss sfeer whim got more attention during the set ceiling standoff and now has new york sometimes columnist paul krug man writing if it's not avoiding, quote, mint the darn coin. not to mention a petition on the website with thousands of support. speaking at the white house. >> will you fully rule it out? >> you can speculate about a lot of things. the specifics of this question. >>...
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they did not want to keep the debt ceiling -- they wanted to lift the debt ceiling through the rest of the year, through the election. they're giving in on that. then with regard to funding of the government, republicans are giving in on that. they wanted to have a deal to fund the government through maybe even a year. why did they want to do that? because it would lock in place forced spending cuts that democrats don't like. then the last thing i wanted to tell you about are obama care provisions. there are some potential obama care provisions in this. they're not big, but they're there. first of all, income verification for those getting obama care subsidies. we are told that that is something that republicans very much wanted, just to make sure there's no fraud in the system. democrats appear to be giving on that. then the last is something democrats actually wanted because the unions were up at arms about a fee on employees receiving insurance. this would be delayed for a year. so those are the -- that's the framework of what they're talking about. senate republicans were supposed
they did not want to keep the debt ceiling -- they wanted to lift the debt ceiling through the rest of the year, through the election. they're giving in on that. then with regard to funding of the government, republicans are giving in on that. they wanted to have a deal to fund the government through maybe even a year. why did they want to do that? because it would lock in place forced spending cuts that democrats don't like. then the last thing i wanted to tell you about are obama care...
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are going to take tomorrow to raise the debt ceiling temporarily for three months. and what he informed his caucus about, just in the last hour and a half, is that they are going to write a budget that tries to balance the budget in ten years. that is going to mean massive cuts across the board from the perspective of republicans, but that's how he hopes to get conservatives to agree to raise the debt ceiling temporarily. >> he's got his own problems, as well as speaker. not an easy job. we'll stand by to hear what he says. dana, thank. so what exactly did the president say that raised so much republican ire? kate balduan is here. she's got more on this part of the story. >> yeah, wolf, as you and i know, he used some pretty broad strokes in his inaugural speech to paint a blueprint on major issues he hopes to focus on facing the country. all controversial in trying to get republicans on board. cnn's chief white house correspondent, jessica yellin, is here with more details. jessica, what's the latest on the president's second-term agenda. >> reporter: hi, kate. cle
are going to take tomorrow to raise the debt ceiling temporarily for three months. and what he informed his caucus about, just in the last hour and a half, is that they are going to write a budget that tries to balance the budget in ten years. that is going to mean massive cuts across the board from the perspective of republicans, but that's how he hopes to get conservatives to agree to raise the debt ceiling temporarily. >> he's got his own problems, as well as speaker. not an easy job....
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but republicans say they will only raise the debt ceiling if there is an equal amount of spending cuts together with the raising of the debt ceiling. he says he is not going to play that game. will he have any choice? >> look, that is the kind of brinksmanship i'm talking about. we should not negotiate on the full faith and credit of a u.s. government. that is crazy. why would we want to put our economy through that? but there are lots of things we can negotiate on. we do have a sequester, we do have the end of the continuing resolution. we have lots of things coming up that will force us to make some of the tough decisions. >> here is what mitch mcconnell wrote on yahoo! news. i'll read about it, he is going after the president. he is the republican leader in the senate. predictably the president is claiming already that his tax hike on the rich is not enough. i have news for him, the moment that he and every other elected official signed off on the current arrangement, it was the last word on taxes. that debate is over. what he is saying it is now all about spending cuts, no more dis
but republicans say they will only raise the debt ceiling if there is an equal amount of spending cuts together with the raising of the debt ceiling. he says he is not going to play that game. will he have any choice? >> look, that is the kind of brinksmanship i'm talking about. we should not negotiate on the full faith and credit of a u.s. government. that is crazy. why would we want to put our economy through that? but there are lots of things we can negotiate on. we do have a...
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they say they are going to have a vote that will delay the debt ceiling for three months. so what they are doing, if you really look at house republicans who took the majority two years ago, they did it standing on principle for pretty much every squirmish. it seems that they are becoming a bit more sophisticated, rather, but their understanding, it seems, is that you have to pick your battles. losing credit ratings and so forth, that's not a smart battle to wage. look at some of the most conservative members of the house talking to deirdre walsh at the end of their retreat for three days about picking their battles in a better way. >> deal with the smaller ones first, maybe build up a little momentum, credibility, not only with the credit markets but with the folks back home, that we can actually deal with these things, take the small one first, debt ceiling last, i think it's a rational, reasonable thing to do. >> now, for some, wolf, maybe even those in the republican house leadership, like him talking about what is rational and reasonable, that may be a bit jarring but
they say they are going to have a vote that will delay the debt ceiling for three months. so what they are doing, if you really look at house republicans who took the majority two years ago, they did it standing on principle for pretty much every squirmish. it seems that they are becoming a bit more sophisticated, rather, but their understanding, it seems, is that you have to pick your battles. losing credit ratings and so forth, that's not a smart battle to wage. look at some of the most...
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many republicans want more spending cuts in return for raising the debt ceiling. the white house's response? absolutely not. >> there's no negotiating over congress's responsibility -- we saw what happened when that path was traveled in 2011. the result was terrible. the markets dipped. and it's hard without to imagine that at some of the point the white house won't engage with house republicans, but that's what they're saying right now, that they're not going to. >> it will be a tough, tough month in october. you remember a lot of our viewers remember when the debate over obama care was going on in 2009, the president repeatedly said over and over again that americans shouldn't worry, that if they have had health insurance, they like their health insurance, they'll be able to keep their health insurance. let me play a clip from one of those town hall meetings in new hampshire back in 2009. if you like yus health care plan, you can keep your health care plan. >> now we know there are a bunch of people who like their health insurance, but are going to lose it, will
many republicans want more spending cuts in return for raising the debt ceiling. the white house's response? absolutely not. >> there's no negotiating over congress's responsibility -- we saw what happened when that path was traveled in 2011. the result was terrible. the markets dipped. and it's hard without to imagine that at some of the point the white house won't engage with house republicans, but that's what they're saying right now, that they're not going to. >> it will be a...
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it goes through january 15th and it lifts the debt ceiling. so both of those potential pressure points that republicans viewed as negotiating chips are now off the table. >> peter, you have a very different conclusion. what's yours? >> i think you have to distinguish between the shutdown itself and the deal. i agree, the shutdown was politically damaging for the republicans. but as molly herself just said, the actual deal, this clean continuing resolution which extends the sequester cuts and uses them as a baseline for further negotiation, that was acknowledged by both democrats and republicans as recently as a month ago as a victory for the republicans because they wanted the sequester cuts extended and democrats didn't. it's only because we got distracted by this fight over repealing obama care that we forgot that the very idea of extending the sequester cuts was always seen as a republican victory. >> go ahead. >> well, that is certainly the case but that is something democrats agreed to in the first place. if republicans had believed initi
it goes through january 15th and it lifts the debt ceiling. so both of those potential pressure points that republicans viewed as negotiating chips are now off the table. >> peter, you have a very different conclusion. what's yours? >> i think you have to distinguish between the shutdown itself and the deal. i agree, the shutdown was politically damaging for the republicans. but as molly herself just said, the actual deal, this clean continuing resolution which extends the sequester...
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i think the democrats will get a turn with what republicans went through on the debt ceiling and as more democrats say entitlements are not hurting the country fiscally, when all the studies say yes they are it will be interesting to see if the democrats can get their act together. >> that will be hard to take, spending cuts on entitlements, no question. >> you think boehner will be a better speaker than eric cantor. >> yes. >> oh, i absolutely think boehner is better than eric cantor, i don't trust cantor as far as i can throw him. >> why? >> for boehner to hold a press conference and say the reason republicans didn't vote for t.a.r.p. was because nancy pelosi did not say nice words about him, and at the last minute he himself turning against it. >> interesting stuff. guys, thank you very much. we will continue this conversation. >> thank you. >>> other news we are following, new york police probably don't make many arrests for possessions of explosive in greenwich village, and that makes the latest plot they interrupted all the more bizarre. meet the five-passenger ford c-max hybrid. c
i think the democrats will get a turn with what republicans went through on the debt ceiling and as more democrats say entitlements are not hurting the country fiscally, when all the studies say yes they are it will be interesting to see if the democrats can get their act together. >> that will be hard to take, spending cuts on entitlements, no question. >> you think boehner will be a better speaker than eric cantor. >> yes. >> oh, i absolutely think boehner is better...
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>> wolf, this is all part of the debt ceiling negotiations in 2011, where the republicans said that we are going to force the country to default if we don't get what we want. and so the president working with congress came up with a proposal that tried to force congress to do balance deficit reduction. congress is choosing not to do that because republicans are refusing for a very long time and consider tax revenue a part of that. let's forget, the speaker says now this was the president's idea. after this was passed and the speaker voted for it and all of his lieutenants voted for it, he went to the floor of the house and crowed about how this was a deal where he he got 98% of what he wanted. maybe the trillion dollar sequester was the 2% he didn't want but i find a lot of that hard to believe. they he should stop trying to cast blame here and actually try to help the american people by working with this president to come up with a balanced solution to deal with this secoquester a focus on job growth and economic growth in this country. >> you could come up with $85 billion very quick
>> wolf, this is all part of the debt ceiling negotiations in 2011, where the republicans said that we are going to force the country to default if we don't get what we want. and so the president working with congress came up with a proposal that tried to force congress to do balance deficit reduction. congress is choosing not to do that because republicans are refusing for a very long time and consider tax revenue a part of that. let's forget, the speaker says now this was the...
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> does he have any hand right now when it comes to raising the nation's debt ceiling? i'm talking about john boehner and the republicans giving the enormous consequences of failure to do so for the overall u.s. economy, james. >> you know, you don't know. there's a lot of talk about letting it happen and the fiscal cliff that actually go over the cliff. on this one i'm a little less certain and a lot of times an event has to happen. ari will remember this well. remember, the talk first went down and the stock market lost 71 point and they came back in and it went up. i'm beginning to sense -- obviously i don't notice, that something bad might have to happen in order to get this reconciled and both sides are digging in pretty hard here. >> boehner in "the wall street journal" the other day actually said this. i'll read it to you, ari. it wasn't until literally last week that the white house brought up replacing the sequester. they were always counting on us to bring this to the table. the sequester is as much leverage as we're going to get. how big of a deal is this goi
> does he have any hand right now when it comes to raising the nation's debt ceiling? i'm talking about john boehner and the republicans giving the enormous consequences of failure to do so for the overall u.s. economy, james. >> you know, you don't know. there's a lot of talk about letting it happen and the fiscal cliff that actually go over the cliff. on this one i'm a little less certain and a lot of times an event has to happen. ari will remember this well. remember, the talk first...
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i think we'll see paul ryan's star rise as we move to the debt ceiling negotiation and the budget deal. >> how does this affect their 2016, the people we mentioned here? >> republican governors are smiling because cruz and ryan, they are giving them a gift every time they do this. someone like chris christie looks more moderate and more to the center, even if he's not and looks better for a run in 2016. >> maria, democrats talked about hillary clinton, joe biden, i mean he was seen as frozen out of the talks with harry reid. any impact on his white house hopes? >> i don't think so because you are right, he wasn't front and center in this deal. i think, in general, you are going to have a lot of people who support joe biden, but will always say, he's going to wait and see what hillary clinton does. we don't know if that's true or not. then, of course, you have everyone who supports hillary clinton. i don't think she was affected by this one way or the other. she's been talking about how she is, you know, like the american people, she wants to come together to find solutions. today, she
i think we'll see paul ryan's star rise as we move to the debt ceiling negotiation and the budget deal. >> how does this affect their 2016, the people we mentioned here? >> republican governors are smiling because cruz and ryan, they are giving them a gift every time they do this. someone like chris christie looks more moderate and more to the center, even if he's not and looks better for a run in 2016. >> maria, democrats talked about hillary clinton, joe biden, i mean he was...
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but we also saw vote fail in the senate, don, which would have been a clean extension of the debt ceiling beyond the mid-term elections. >> meanwhile, brianna, people are not getting paid, they're furloughed. there are parts of the government shut down, parks, monuments, a couple of states are using their money to keep the monuments open. like the grand canyon, lady liberty, so we're back at square one, the senate will have a session tomorrow obviously with just one thing on the agenda. so what can senators do tomorrow to influence a house when they come back to work? >> well, really, and that is just the point, don. i think more than anything this is not even about what all senators can do. it is really between senate majority harry reid and mitch mcconnell, we'll wait to see if they come up with a framework of the deal that might be palatble to senate republicans. that is the deal there. of course will the house republicans accept it? the thinking is, it is called jamming, as you get closer to a deadline, one chamber can jam the government, if you can get momentum and push them to take
but we also saw vote fail in the senate, don, which would have been a clean extension of the debt ceiling beyond the mid-term elections. >> meanwhile, brianna, people are not getting paid, they're furloughed. there are parts of the government shut down, parks, monuments, a couple of states are using their money to keep the monuments open. like the grand canyon, lady liberty, so we're back at square one, the senate will have a session tomorrow obviously with just one thing on the agenda....
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ceiling. we'll have all these debates again over the next few weeks. >> reporter: are you fighting a kamikaze mission here? you know the way senate democrats will respond. >> if our senate colleagues want to vote against what i think every american would think is right, that is we're all in, we are not getting a subsidy either on the affordable care act, this resonates deeply with the american people. they want members of congress to live like everybody else and so i think it's a wise path. i have been critical of our leadership many times but i think this is a viable path. >> reporter: that viable path is not so much the house plan to delay the individual mandate for a year which is part of what they're going to vote on early this evening, but also, the idea that members of congress, their staff, the executive branch, people who serve in the federal government here in these halls should not get federal subsidies for their health care. the republicans are banking on the fact that that might be
ceiling. we'll have all these debates again over the next few weeks. >> reporter: are you fighting a kamikaze mission here? you know the way senate democrats will respond. >> if our senate colleagues want to vote against what i think every american would think is right, that is we're all in, we are not getting a subsidy either on the affordable care act, this resonates deeply with the american people. they want members of congress to live like everybody else and so i think it's a...